Theist Logic Argument
Here's a nice little post from somebody over at www.iidb.org. If you ever ask a Christian: "If God created everything, then who created God?". They'll usually say something like "God is timeless", or "time never began, and God has always existed". The post basically says this: IF NO ONE CREATED GOD, AND HE'S ALWAYS EXISTED, THEN WHY CANT THE UNIVERSE BE THE SAME WAY Saint Thomas's argument is this:
1. Everything is caused by something other than itself
2. Therefore the universe was caused by something other than itself.
3. The string of causes cannot be infinitely long.
4. If the string of causes cannot be infinitely long, there must be a first cause.
5. Therefore, there must be a first cause, namely god.
The most telling criticism of this argument is that it is self-refuting. If everything has a cause other than itself, then god must have a cause other than himself. But if god has a cause other than himself, he cannot be the first cause. So if the first premise is true, the conclusion must be false.
To save the argument, the first premise could be amended to read:
1'. Everything except god has a cause other than itself.
But if we're willing to admit the existence of uncaused things (such as God), why not just admit that the universe is uncaused as well and simply cut out the middleman?
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